All of his pants were tailored to reflect that. The Lord will honor the heart that seeks Him and is humble before Him, even if there are areas of the persons life which are not in full obedience to Him. The prophets of baal danced, shouted and cut themselves for hours in order to try and get fire down from Heaven to consume the sacrifice. Sure there will be people who say Lord did we not cast out demons, heal the sick etc. [8]Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faithwhich is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. But many of the same practices are done at Johnsons school as well as Joyners school. (kings of the east?) to become the type that accuses first and asks questions later. What flesh can resist that over time! In helping to delineate the true from the false, one thing the Lord made me aware of recently is that the false relies on witchcraft (though they dont know it) whereas the true relies on the Holy Spirit. I just read 1 Kings 18. Jesus was concerned enough about Lazarus to weep at his death, and then He did something about it. That was 25 years ago and it never went back. This wonderful key aligns our focus when reading His Word. Hi Shaun. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. As we can see, being baptised by the Holy Spirit in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ doesnt involve any laying on of hands, just BELIEVING. Johnson does say something quite alarming in his book, When Heaven Invades Earth. He says, He (Jesus) performed miracles, wonders, and signs, as a man in right relationship to God.not as God (page 29). At that instant, I observed my friend was motioning me to come and join him in prayer for the woman who was sick. As Ive stated before, true miracles and miraculous healings are not subject to debate as they are objective and cannot be challenged. Unfortunately, all we have to test the spirits with is the video. EVERYTHING IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS BASED ON FAITH/TRUST AND SURRENDER. What excited my heart was the fact that he is discipling & mentoring others as the Lord said. Matthew 7: The One True God of the bible is NOT NORMAL NOR NATURAL. I was recently watching a podcast, that you can view at the end of this article, by Torben Sndergaard, a healing evangelist in Denmark, who has been the target of attacks by some in the media over the last several days. If it happened on the Day of Pentecost, who said that it would never happen again? ALL sin is ROOTED IN UNBELIEF. Who says that someones new birth experience has to be like a drive up fast food place? This is the understanding that GOD gave me, it is not of myself because I didnt have a clue. Johnathan Isreal- I am not ashamed to take the Lords name Christian you can say it was a handle the worldly people mockingly gave to the early followers of Jesus Christ if you want ( I doubt you are right about that enormous leap of assumption as the text does not say what you so dogmatically assume. How about this MAGIC TRICK: FINDING A GOLD COIN IN A FISHS MOUTH! He told me that all discs were as good as new, with absolutely no sign of any damage. He claims that about 90 percent of all the people, that he or others in his team pray for, are healed. eerie suggests an uneasy or fearful consciousness that mysterious and malign powers are at work . July 6, 2022. Yes, Andrew, any trickster can appear to do miracles. There is nothing wrong with being cautious and asking questions. Thank you Roger for letting us know he`s OK. Tell him he is missed & know that God is with him. He has regard for all. I hate those gift inventories for this reason. Discerning the World 2008 - 2022. ha ha ha The old COIN TRICK! Read what Jesus Christ had to say (RIGHT FROM HIS OWN LIPS) about it here: Mar 9:38 KJV And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils IN THY NAME, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 1) to be struck with fear, to be seized with alarm Walking by the Holy Spirit is being FILLED with DIVINE Love, DIVINE Peace, DIVINE Faith, DIVINE Joy, DIVINE Meekness, DIVINE Longsuffering, DIVINE Temperance, DIVINE Gentleness, DIVINE Goodness. Watchful- THIS work of God in us is holiness. I think it very badly needs to be looked at. For more information see the About this Website page below the comments section. The Holy Spirit will prepare that soil ACCORDING to what works with that particular person. My entire life is spent in a life of obedience to our Lord. So, he went out looking for sick people to pray for. The choice to believe that God heals today is choice made by each believer. Listen, I can only tell you about someone that really has raised the dead and dying by the power of Yeshua. Only God knows. And I will add that God will SEND His apostles, and prophets, etc.. to the people, just as He did with John the Baptist and every other man and woman of God that He has used over the centuries. His mother really meant a lot to him and when he heard this bad news he cried and cried and then he prayed to God. That is how Jesus does what He wants to do thru us. Almost instantly it grew out. walked right on camera. The doctor in charge was an atheist and so outraged by it all that he destroyed the medical files and even the record of the man being admitted. So true about trying to put each other into boxes or us having to do such & such etc. Jesus also gave the great commission, in Mat 28:18-20 saying All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Oh and Moses staff turned into a snake. When a man asked Kohn Wesley what his secret was he said to the man, I suggest that you let God light you on fire and people will come and watch you burn!, My email: hope this is safe- what the heck safe sucks! Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, Rather, it is the Holy Spirit authenticating the message I gave to you about Jesus Christ. Secondly I remember well how Derek Prince when he held healing and deliverance meetings would always begin by praying for one or two folk with legs of uneven length. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? Leg lengthening WAS AND IS GODS IDEA NOT THE WORLDS IDEA! Many genuine Christians will think they are missing out on something special if they dont speak in gibberish that God favours those who speak in tongues more than those who dont. Frankly, if I would have seen this first, I would seriously reconsider my opinion of Andrew Strom. The devil visited Jesus, just as the devil visits us in one form or another. Jesus often did. But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. What I find very disappointing is that when some of us want to engage in an honest discussion about this story, we are met with name calling and ridicule. Please take a look. Torben Sondergaard Calls the Line of Fire from Prison Call in LIVE: (866) 348-7884 The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and regularly receive divine visions. That is a result of a lack of intemacy with our Lord!!!! Sidelining the teaching of sound doctrine, the preaching of the message of faith in Jesus and sacrificial living and replacing these in mainstream Christianity with the seeking of spiritual experiences , sensuality, self indulgence and the worship and focus on angels and extra biblical revelatory encounters. Arrested NOT. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. So the Hebrews ASSUMED THEY KNEW GODS FORMULA FOR SUCCESS. Such a sad time. making who dont know the first thing about him. I just said, Lord I surrender to Thy will in this household.. I saw a lady several weeks later who looked like this lady but because this lady was a normal size I thought it might be her sister . The Holy Spirit IS THE GIFTwho MANIFESTS healing, prophecy, words of wisdom, etc etc etc. Here is your test- Bitter and sweet water do not flow forth from the same fountain. People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. In other words, you did not know the cause and effect of things, and thought you were doing it in your own power, not pointing people to Him. Now a woman, having a flow of blood for twelve years, who had spent all her livelihood on physicians and could not be healed by any, came from behind and touched the border of His garment. The Hebrews had been praying for over 400 years and received no freedom from their judgment of slaverythey were filled with UNBELIEF. I think he purposely included those leg lengthening healings to scandalize and expose the hearts of the skeptics. I think a lot of people need to repent. Unfortunately, not many details about his wife are available on the internet. Torben dunks these people in trash cans how insulting!Those that defend this man, are his Cult Members and they have no problem threatening those that speak out against him. He does not require us to do anything for Him, but on the contrary, works through us to do His will, and pleasure. (Luke 5: 13) Jesus said heal the sick, raise the dead, open the eyes of the blind. Okay, you may lamb baste me again good Christians. And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying: The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord; Make His paths straight. This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. See also John 1:12-13. He was a new believer who just found out about the Grace of God, the redemption of the cross, the Word of God. When my dad died, I lost it and wept, my emotions were running wild and I was broken. In too many of these healing/prophetic schools I am seeing far to much mixture. This prophesy shall be fulfilled in Gods people ! I believe we are moving In a Direction where everyone is going to say Truly God has visited us! I believe we will see believers so full of Gods spirit walk into a Veterans hospital and heal every amputee and solider who has lost a limb or body part. Thank you Andrew for this next follow up of Torben. I arose to go to him but found my body was trembling so violently that I had great difficulty in walking across the room, and especially in controlling the trembling of my hands and arms. We sang no actuall worship song that I ever heard of. Each person has their own homemade version/definition of what that means. We want Christianity to go back to the New Testament and the life we read about in the Book of Acts. Torben Sondergaard is a Danish pastor who is facing extraordinary persecution for exercising his Christian faith. If you really believe it and are willing to stake your life on it why dont you say that? Acts 14:10-15 Ive been porn and masturbation free from that very day. He regards the distressing circumstances of the poor widows. Soendergaard was booked into the Orange County Jail system in or around Orlando, FL. Mar 9:39 KJV But Jesus said, Forbid him not: FOR THERE IS NO MAN WHICH SHALL DO A MIRACLE IN MY NAME, THAT CAN LIGHTLY SPEAK EVIL OF ME. Unfortunately, my blog has been down for a bit, and I havent had a chance to get it back up. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and to regularly receive divine visions. It very well could be true, but the video itself leaves many questions unanswered. He is NOT MR. Wierdsville! 3.and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit in faith with the signs of tongues, casting out demons and healing the sick with the laying on of hands in faith. 1) to be fearful, be dreadful, be feared Step 3. At some point Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing We have to go Repent (change the inner man to meet Gods will) and do the works you did previously [when first you knew the Lord], or else I will visit you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you change your mind and repent. John later said 1Jo 5:8 Andrew, I am very disappointed that I come here with what I think is grace and humility attempting to speak from Gods word, and yet the response is more name calling and calling me to repentance. The Bible distinctly says, For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. This is precisely why Jesus (God) had to become like us in all things except sin. If youre not experiencing His tangible Presence in your private prayer time, youre missing the LIFE that Jesus Christ DIED TO GIVE TO EACH OF US for the salvation of the rest of the world. Going beyond the person to see what the Lord is doing in & through them. Because he wants to give us the more. I think you had better check those scriptures again. 2) (TWOT) to shoot, pour. believe this authentic move of the Holy Spirit is only recent..? 1 Corinthians 10:1. I believe in the Power of the Lord to do miracles. If it would make any difference to you I could give you several examples, but suffice it to say that obeying God is the best way we can show we love Him. The arm had been totally severed at the shoulder. Knowing how His whole being, His whole nature, radiated that wondrous, blessed life of God of which He was Himself the living manifestation, she said within herself, If I can but touch His garment, I shall be healed. (See Matthew 9:21; Mark 5:28.) God Next, Sister Lankford told of the man with no arm. This movement is helping the Church come back to the life we read about. I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. And indeed we must maintain the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace. I love HIM even more. Andrew J I have been very specific and clear about the problems I have with Bill Johnson. First, she told about the man with the wooden leg. They watched how the Lord sent them into the Land and took victory over and over. Ive only brought a dose of reality to the discussions, with some serious, and important, things to think about. I have never see one video (much less the one with Torben) providing evidence of objective healings. Like maybe God wants a *clear* separation of His ways from the enemys ways? This is the church! b) caring or providing for. That is why we need to take care when posting our judgmental thoughts without first checking things out properly. My friends, that is not discernment. Moses was filled with UNBELIEF.Moses did not BELIEVE that God would do what He said He was going to do. Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. Gal 3:27 Torben Sondergaard was born in 1976 into a non-Christian family. Praise the Lord for the doers of Gods word a d not hearers only. Previous Comments: Please read all previous comment pages if there are any. So I am going to be featuring a lot more of Torbens stuff on here. 3) to inspire reverence or godly fear or awe And if you do say that and you are wrong then you will be blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Jesus hasnt changed! Andrew, you of all people understand this in your battle against all the multitudes of people who follow people like Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley, Joel Osteen, and the list goes on and on. In order to test the spirits, I am compelled to ask why in the hearings in this video, doesnt God use ones like He did in the NTthat are without question? Within a few minutes I felt a deep concern and compassion rise up inside of me and found my self spontaneously and effortlessly inquiring of the ladies health condition. Exd 4:7 KJV And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. It could be the GLORY Face like Moses manifested. Torben Sndergaard hijacks you on the spot, does a willy nilly prayer with you, lays hands on you in the street, or dunks you under water at a baptism, a demon manifests (but does not actually leave), and then he lays hands on you again and forces that Spirit of FIRE into you until you speak in tongues, which according toTorben Sndergaard proves you are now truly saved. Submitted by escamp on August 31, 2015 - 3:04pm. If I were to just watch the first video, I would definitely right Torben off as one more phony. So while we dont put God in a box, I dont think we should ignore everything that we are told about the various gifts and parts either. Mar 9:40 KJV For he that is not against us is on our part. Share on pocket. Yet, there are millions who say to his face, Sorry Jesus, but you neither fulfilled the law of circumcision nor water baptism. Let us not forget Mathew 7:22-23, which everyone seems to be conveniently ignoring. I didnt want it to be about me so I asked my young lady helper to lay hands on her and pray . USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. I can perform this trick myself. Having said that however, God never asks us to throw our common sense out the window. And treat His holy things as HOLY? Sndergaard's legal spokesman told CBN News, "Torben's asylum case is very strong, the judge ignored the facts of the case, and Torben will not be deported anytime soon.". They will walk into a childrens hospital and clear it out, even patients who had chemo for cancer will have their hair grow back. Those who want to be deceived will be deceived. It look WAY too much like the Todd Bentleys and the other hucksters of the world. In his absorption, he had not observed that anything had taken place in me. Rejoicing was continuous as the crowd went wild. No one has answered that question. He comes to SHOCK AND AWE! And they said, To Johns baptism. Torben says himself at 6:44into the Speaking in Tongues video above that speaking in tongues is an amazing gift that EVERYONE should have because if you are not baptised in the Holy Spirit well according to Torben you are not saved, and that speaking in tongues is an amazing tool God has given us to come into a strong prayer life and relationship with him. Im honestly smiling about this; not offended one bit, though I do feel sorry for yall. average, commonplace, everyday, garden, normal, ordinary, prosaic, routine, run-of-the-mill, standard, typical, unexceptional, unremarkable, usual, workaday; conformist, conservative, conventional; expected, familiar, knee-jerk, predictable; common, customary, frequent, habitual, regular. acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. I want to speak to God in an unknown language as well! Its called jealously, wanting somethingthat someone else has (all be it unbiblical and totally ungodly). If you really believe what you are saying about Bill Johnson to be true then why dont you say, The Holy Spirit told me that Bill Johnson doesnt belong to God, is not a child of God and is purposefully leading the people of God astray as a messenger of Satan? Jonathan Yet another person who watched the first 30 seconds of the video and ignored the rest. Die letzte Reformation (berarbeitete Neuausgabe 2020) - Buch (Paperback) von Sndergaard, Torben | GloryWorld-Medien | Besuchen Sie uns online unter www.buchhaus.ch oder in einer unserer Buchhandlungen. I desire mercy not sacrifice. Ha, ha, ha! Thank you so much Andrew for sharing these videos with us. Thank you Lord Jesus! Like Barry said, examine the fruit to see whether it is good or bad. etc. The Gospel of Luke is about Christ the Mediator, the One who is touched with the feelings of our infirmities. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Minister Starker. Where do you get your identity? But Yeshua calls His followers sheep. The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. This is very subjective and there is absolutely no way for anyone watching the video to say with certainty if these healings are genuine or not, based on just watching the video. It confuses me right now, but hopefully it will clear up later, when I read more. (Acts 19:4) Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.. Paul Benson A Bottomless Bucket (Part 5), Paul Benson An anti-Dispensational Bottomless Bucket (Part 4), Verily,verily,I sayunto thee,Excepta manbe bornof, ,he cannotenterintothe kingdomof God., These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have, Latter Rain Teaching / Dominionism / Kingdom Now, page recently and I find it very interesting, https://www.youtube.com/user/DanishEvangelist, The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. Amen. Its not just a matter of someone professing correct doctrine with their lips, but an indwelling of the Holy Spirit such that, when it acts through us, people are brought to repentance, recognizing Jesus as Lord. Hypnotist Torben Sondergaard & his Cult of Demonic Hypnosis - Destroyed by God All glory to Yeshua who opens blind eyes, deaf ears, causes the lame to walk and the dead to rise. I totally disagree with his position. I received a comment from a Discerning the World reader who said: I have just found this page recently and I find it very interesting. Beware of associating water with blood. We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! It says He was manifested (incarnated) to take away our sins while there was no sin in Him. (1 John 5:5 NASB). Sheriff's Office Openly Praises the Lord as Dozens of Inmates Get Baptized, Pledge Lives to Christ, Rabbi, Wife Sponsor Knesset Gathering to Focus Attention on the Widowed, Orphaned. chas351.Thank you for your Jonathan Welton post. He arose, saying, Let us pray that the Lord will now heal you., As he did so, he took her by the hand. Gods idea of glory is not the same as mans idea of glory. Your prayers in your native language are so weak Jesus Christ does not even hear them, thats why God prefers you to speak to Him in a prayer language instead. Updated 7 Dec, 2020. He is NOT MR. Wierdsville! Fire tunnels are to bring hilarious laughter and uncontrollable shacking. God said to the Apostles, and therefore also to us today Wait upon the Holy Spirit for the power from on high (for the HS unction) and then go out. However, I dont perceive any self motivation from Torben. David repentance is exactly what Torben preaches. We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. Amen Jonathan, Amen Lord come Lord Jesus through Your Church to demonstrate Your Gospel the Power of Your Gospel to the world , namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrTjbzbByA. 4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? Baptizing you in water is a way of taking you back to the Hebrew way of doing things, and you push Jesus Christ completely out of the picture as the One who forgives you of your sin, instead the immersion in water is what forgives you instead. (Bearing I mind I can only talk about it in accordance with my gift, others like scribes might be able to go into in greater depth and detail etc, but for me I have to keep it simple, and that is ok I think because different gifts have different benefits.). Christs church is not some debate club and we must then try to win the debate. This move of God will not be among a hyper spiritual exclusive fringe group of religiois zealots but will be among the grassroots culturally mainstream families among regular moms and dads, children, marketplace workers, friends and nieghbours . According to people present, Todd Bentley said: In the Bible, in John 5 provides a healing outpouring the Pool of Bethesda, which means an outpouring of grace. If God is doing it, then it is sweet if man is doing it then there is bitterness. Id take issue with just one thing the gifts of healings are for the common good of both the Body of Christ (the context of 1 Corinthians 12, 13, and 14, and the public at large (where the Apostle Paul also was used of God for healing, prophecy, and so on). Paul said with a loud voice, Stand upright on your feet. And he leaped up and began to walk. How many of us acknowledge Him in all our ways? Attacks against his ministry in Denmark began in 2016 when the Jesus Center was investigated by six different Danish government agencies for everything from food safety to unpaid taxes. ". Elijah prayed ONE SENTENCE and fire instantly fell from God. What I see here is a man willing to walk in obedience to what Jesus told us to do and yet some want to stone him to death. All those people say they got healed and you call them liars, prove they are lying! His Pioneer School videos elucidate the full gospel including repentance, water baptism, Spirit baptism, and evangelism with healing, casting out demons, and signs and wonders. The staff of Moses that he had in his hand turned into a snake as a sign to the Egyptians, we do not read of this miracle occurring later outside of Egypt..so think about what it was speaking to them. The Holy Spirit does NOT base this on how HOLY a person is. I also believe that `experiencing,` comes through being changed into His likeness, which is the most amazing work of God in our lives. All of us instantly felt heat like a fire go through us all. And there also those who embrace every wind of doctrine, and all signs and wonders, regardless of their source. To me, he is one of the few preachers If we do that then we would start to veer off the road towards the ditch. I believe that our God is a might God who is 100% sovereign over everything, including life and death. (Hebrews 9:22). `in His hand is a sacred censer.`, This shows the regenerative ability of the entitled Son of Man in His Creatorship & Judgeship. Perhaps the organized church has been to PRE-OCCUPIED with fighting with their flesh a battle that has already been won by Jesus Christ on the cross. And this growing awareness of the many gifts and parts of the body has opened a window on seeing Christ in others, it is truly humbling. Amen., jda016 Jonathon, at one time B.Johnson of Bethel, denied the deity of Christ Jesus our Lord thereby teaching a false christ, a different Jesus. We strive like Paul towards the prize of the High Calling in Christ Jesus. My answer is simple Jesus never copied ANYONE. If those like Torden are burdened to go and minister to the streets to glorify the risen Lord, who would prevent it? Redacted government documents surrounding his arrest can be viewed here at friendsoftorben.com. But I dont think he forbids us either to learn and talk about what scripture teaches us, concerning not profaning the holy things (specifically miracles) and where it can lead, especially where miracles are taking place. He said that they needed to be naked before the Lord, or the Lord would not give him prophetic words for them. In the early 80s, I suffered from a ruptured/prolapsed/slipped disc in my lower back. 3) to fear, reverence, honour, respect Torben is clear-headed, informed, and full of compassion for those persecuting him. One more thing. We dont rely on one event or one experience as the whole crux of our spiritual salvation. Once burned twice shyis not a bilixal concept!!! The Art of Revelation by Jonathan Welton (Intro, Chapter 1 & 2) May our Lord give us boldness to step out of our comfort zones in obedience to His Word! Playing and mimicking what only Jesus can do like cheap Elvis impersonators! We are committed to delivering quality independent Christian journalism you can trust. in Denmark who fully represents the gospel as it should be You said, `the backdrop of the whole Bible is needed to understand the point & purpose of revelation.` So true. This why I said that you dont know me and you know absolutely nothing of my life. You will be glad you did. The early church emphasised the objective teaching of the apostles over subjective feelings, and that teaching is contained in the whole of the New Testament, including pre and post Acts. Trenton D. Adams said: Lets see a man with no leg, and see that grow out., A healing like that is documented to have taken place in the Azusa street revival in 1908, Excerpt taken from Azusa Street, They Told Me Their Stories Trenton its better to show a little wisdom and not say anything but spend some time in prayer and seek the mind of the Lord, then to say something you will regret later when God reveals all things. Amen watchful that is exactly my hope and prayer.. . As the Bible says, we are to not only test the spirits, but we are to examine ourselves (2 Cor. But I have I can understand that. I would have liked to post what God showed me about Emma the angel being a demon. According to Torben Sndergaard, God made him time travel back to before he was born as a confirmation[27]. Fear THAT MAN! 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